B Dry says.. "you`ll notice thats the walls are 'sweating or 'bleeding' moisture.Hydrostatic pressure on the outside forces moisture into the wall where it is absorbed and 'wicked' through to the interior face....need to be sealed properly"

http://www.featurexpress.com/fxDetail_new.asp?relid=91923

First, water/moisture not only just 'wicks' through it can ENTER into a block wall through Cracks,loose parging on Outside of block wall, cracks you may NOT see on inside.It will enter a poured wall through cracks, rod holes or, run down from the top of wall onto floor behind your drywall from Above ground direct openings.

So, why don`t they go Outside and waterproof the crack(s)-wall then huh? lol

Can`t stop/prevent water from entering on the Inside of the basement! where`s the common sense.....its the old american double standard, Say one thing, DO something different.

Have never seen B Dry do (1) outside waterproofing job, ever, not here in MI. Neither have countless others.

So, will the supposed experts at B Dry please inform us just exactly how you stop water from entering with your inside system, been waiting.

Leaky,wet,damp,sweaty bsmt walls can certainly equal mold for pete sake.Like you say B Dry, water is coming through so, you people don`t think its in the Best interest of the homeowner, the basement to stop and prevent water-moisture from entering to prevent the real-possibility of mold,efflorescence,radon in their basements? huh? lol

They say they provide the 'finest waterproofing system available anywhere' and 'their unique system STOPS ALL 5 ways water can enter a basement'.....really?

I believe they mean more like, they`ll stop water from being on the basement FLOOR, maybe they should say that. Because, the ONLY way....and its Not UNIQUE to STOP water from entering cracks in block walls and other openings above ground is...Outside, dang it, not inside, quit MISLEADING the public.

I dont give 2 1/2 craps if they`ve been in business for 600 years, facts are facts, quit w/ the misleading statements.

Placing any sort of paneling-sheeting on part-all of bsmt walls, inside basement, doesn`t do chtt. It simply hides whats really going on in many basements/homes, water entering, mold or efflorescence getting worse, insects behind the dang sheeting, crack widening, maybe a wall bowing in.

if you have crack(s) in basement wall they could widen, if you have a bowing wall it could get worse...thing is, you and your bowing wall or widening cracks,leaks are BEST taken care of on the outside, not with ANY inside system. Its the only way to take expanding/contracting soil pressure off the wall, its whats MOST likely causing the darn wall to bow in, crack,leak, have mold,efflorescence,discolorment on wall. So, whats best to help lessen/relieve the soil pressure or roots that also can push walls inward, cause cracks? its NOT inside! Most peoples problems are on the outside, NOT All, most.

lets see what OTHERS say,

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/new...fiednewconstruct-hed


6th para...
http://www.yodergroup.com/concrete.asp


http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpwes/publications/marineclay.htm#2


scroll down to WET BASEMENTS, 1st and 5th Q & A
http://www.shakeronline.com/dept/building/FAQ.asp

....are sump pump SYSTEMS allowed?

....what if problem not related to surface grading and water is leaking through foundation?

radon, how does it enter?

http://radon.utoledo.edu/remedy_mech.html

http://www.epa.gov/radon/pubs/physic.html#Character


Mold? needs water-moisture

http://www.epa.gov/iaq/molds/images/moldguide.pdf

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131638&page=1

"experts agree on one thing, if you`ve got mold you need to get rid of it. More importantly, you need to eliminate the cause"

"find the moisture, eliminate the moisture,clean up the mold"

"cleaning up the mold is NOT enough. You must find the WATER source and Eliminate it"


efflorescence? "must be a water source"

http://na.hansonbrick.com/en/techNotes/pdf/efflorescence.pdf

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Licensed Waterproofer,

I'm in the Detroit area and have had some flooding last week after the big rains on thursday/friday. I'd like to consult with you about identifying and fixing the problem. What's the best way to get in touch with you?

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you can also call Capizzo Construction, RL Stremersch Waterpf`g, Downriver Waterproof`g, Clark Waterprf`g... its not whats best for me but for HO. how many other Waterpf`g companies are willing to recommend others, tell ya, very few.

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I got the number. You can edit it out now, if you'd like.

Thanks...

Brick: You can find a number of qualified and experienced contractors at www.nawsrc.org Respectfully, Frank O'Pinion

...may also find a number of UN-qualified,inexperienced contractors there

licensedwaterproofer, your not a member. So, how would he find you there?

Brick the www.nawsrc.org is a good place to find a contractor. And if you are going to contract with someone to fix your basement make sure they give you a warranty.

Brick: I just thought of someone, Smith Waterproofing. They've been in buisness for along time, and I'm sure they do good work.You can get any info about them/phone numbers at www.nawsrc.org Respectfully,Frank O'Pinion

how would i know? we`ve been over that already, remember Mr Frank? lol your memory ok?

LicensedWaterproofer...

Okay, I had Rich Stremersch out this weekend, and he thought the problem was caused by a backed up sewer line out in the street. Our problem started when we had the big rains 2 thursdays ago, and Rich thought that the sewers had backed up, giving the drain tile nowhere to drain to. The fact that water is leaking in a number of places around all 4 walls of the basement from the floor/wall joint certainly supported this conclusion.

Now, with the rain and snow we've had the past couple of days, the basement is flooding just as badly as before in the exact same places as before, except this time I checked the storm sewer clean out and the water level was just below the inlet pipe from our basement floor drain. That would seem to eliminate the sewer backing up as a culprit for causing our problem. Yet, we're still all wet and I'm pumping and squeegeeing the basement floor 3-4 times a day.

Any thoughts as to why all 4 walls, including one that is adjacent to an addition that is on a slab, would continue to flood? Is it possible that things are still soaked from 2 weeks ago?

Edit: The house is 57 years old, no sump pump, block walls, i can't tell if the basement windows are leaking or not, no evidence of water above the bottom layer of block (4" exposed).

Brick,

you had Rich out eh

i`ve posted the possibilities, sewer line is one. did you have an honest plumber like John Scalzo snake through storm trap/cleanout?

sometimes, some folks have a 2-3 part problem, yup. some HO might have a problem under floor, maybe a back up in lateral line AND could have cracks in bsmt wall(s) and--or, have direct openings Above ground that allow water in incl`g open mortar joints, openings around bsmt windows,doors etc etc.

'IF'.....you Only problems/entryways allowing water to FIRST-enter are...cracks on Outside of the hollow-block walls then, sure, your still going to get water on floor, along cold joints, where the bottom of wall and floor meet. `Till these cracks are waterproofed correctly, your going to get water on floor.

Water that FIRST enters these cracks on outside of hollow block walls go into the cores of blocks, stays inside the wall where gravity allows it to fall-go through the lower blocks until it finally gets into the LAST course/row of blocks, and then enters onto the basement floor, where wall and floor meet, thats called the cold joint/isolation joint/cove.

Block wall can have hairline to 1-2" cracks on the Outside and may not be VISIBLE on the inside.

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Frustrating and confusing is what it is.

I think my next step may be to get a guy out with a camera. Can they camera the lines leading from the drain tile around the foundation to the storm line? Will that tell me if the drain tiles are clogged or are even accepting water?

Edit: I should also mention that there is a LOT of water coming in on one side of the basement, while there's relatively little coming in on the other sides. The wetter side typically gets about a half inch deep 3 or 4 times a day. It seems like the volume of water that is entering the basement there may not be commensurate with the amount of water that could conceivably enter the walls from the outside. I don't know, that's just my uninformed guess.

Brick,

i, myself, would NOT do that, you-others can if you like, not me

because, some of whom you may get out may BS you. your home, your call-choice of course.

Brick,

Do you get water all the time? If so you might have a cracked water line. They tend to crack just outside the basement wall in the back fill to the house. Some times the city can test it for you. Just a thought?

Brick:A camera is not a bad idea. I would first check the waterline like basementguy said .Call the water co. or city they will have someone who can help you with that. Respectfully, Frank O'Pinion