one to three are having some fun playing games/asking AND answer`g questions on foundation msg board, unreal what some will do
i posted story about Everdry and how the KID`s there got sued for playing around.
under different nics i too could post bogus questions, keep posting THEIR organizations website, keep posting crap about Inside Systems and thats what they recommend.....buncha crap.
so, you KID`s have fun with the games yer playing, certainly doesn`t impress me and can see-right-through-you and your questions..real professional, real expert-like......just who homeowners want to let in the door.
WHY doesn't even just ONE of you answer the questions that LicensedWaterproofer raises time and time again? I doubt that a guy is in the waterproofing business for 28 years or however long it's been by not being in the ballpark. In fact, you're right, he's NOT in the ball park...he's outside where the real game takes place.
Architect (NY) and Home Designer (PA)
Posts: 2550 | Location: Tobyhanna, PA | Registered: 24 October 2005
Richard, Are you trying to tell me you have never had a basement/foundation problem, on any of your projects? I bet if you went and visually inspected, each one you would be very disappointed in yourself. As most builders, and architects you think you’re the smartest person in the world. The fact of the situation is. You are never around when the problem shows up. If you are architects always point the finger at someone else. In Ohio you are required by code to install at inside drainage system. Thanks for admitting to everyone you have no experience in fixing basements.
many of you have been installing INSIDE drain tile or Baseboard systems, with and without sump pumps, for 2,5,7 years...incl`g BasementGuy down in Ohio. I`m not trying to 'totally' crap on ya but, how does this LIMITED "Inside" experience make anyone an Expert? Huh?
Can you be a little honest for once? Look, when i started out and was on my own for 2-3-5 years after spending handful of years with other-companies, i was NOT yet an expert, nobody could possibly be! One must do-the-job AND....SEE each and every problem/opening/cause of where/how/why water is entering peoples homes.
And ya CANNOT understand the Whole-Story if you ONLY do or mostly do....Inside Systems! NO you can`t. You canot understand how walls can bow in, crack etc if you...are not on the Outside of these basement walls, over `n over. You do not see all the different openings/causes if you don`t do the work from the Outside. Come on! You cannot get a handle, the knowledge on the whole story if you simply do inside systems, thats impossible. Chtt, i`m still finding a few new pathways-the homeowners problem.
MOST people`s problems are indeed on the Outside of their house, no doubt about it, and i try `n tell ya this after seeing/witnessing all the varied openings/problems for over 2 1/2 decades, its what doing-the-job has SHOWN me `n my guys, it has NOTHING to do with being biased about exterior work, chtt hardly! Experience of doing the work and calling the homeowners back, over & over, for years and now decades has.....Provided the answers. I`m not saying i have every single answer for...everyones problem, especially when we all need to SEE their situation, but i am saying doing the job has provided us with the...utmost likely causes- problems and the answers to them!
one huge difference between you people and Richard is this, Richard understands when homeowners are bs`d into INSIDE systems by those who Rather/Only do....Inside Systems, then the homeowners are very likely to begin to see/smell MOLD in their basement, if it isn`t already there. Some homeowners have finished basements so, they don`t SEE mold/efflorescence/cracks on bsmt wall behind the drywall etc.
Richard does not do basement waterproofing/foundation work so, he has no bias AND, he surely seems like an honest-bright individual who also cares about people, tries to help them. he can see that you dodo birds have NEVER answered the many direct questions i have posed on this board
Thats VERY often due to, allowing water to continue to enter the basement, duh, Inside systems do NOT stop/prevent water-moisture from entering.Inside systems also allow easier access for RADON to enter the bsmt/house because, ahemmmmm, again........they do not go outside and seal/waterproof direct openings/the PATHWAYS that allow water/radon to enter.
And, through the SAME cracks/openings, inscets will continue to enter. Ever hear of Termites? Centipedes/spiders/ants? THey can easily enter basements through cracks, openings around where servive-lines enter basement walls,open mortar joints etc.
Quite a few homes have BRICKS `n open mortar joints BELOW Ground level, thats right. Porous bricks, cracks in bricks and open mortar joints that are BELOW ground allow water/moisture into basement,increases chances for Mold, allow radon gas to enter, allow insects to enter....don`t you people understand this? Richard understands these very important FACTS, why don`t you Inside people? Do you REALLY care about the homeowners? About informing the homeowner all ALL-possible openings/problems? No.....i think you simply wanna sell & HURRY THEM into what you rather/ONLY install....inside systems.
Its not always the basement wall and/or, sometimes its a 2-part problem...crack in basement wall AND opening in bricks and mortar joints that are....BELOW ground level, below the diveway, below a patio, below your 'raised & sloped grade! Homeowners need to seal/waterproof these bricks & mortar joints, if they dont then sooner or later they WILL begin to have problems.
Some try `n tell homeowners that if they mudjack a slab or replace the driveway or raise the grade that by doing these thngs, it will solve their problems...well, this is NOT true and their being misled. Builders/sub-contract`s out to KNOW these things and should have been sealing/waterproofing any bricks etc that were going to be below ground level.
I`m going to ask you INSIDE people again, you self-proclaimed Experts that....have NOT been in this business that long! No you haven`t
When YOU people sell and install an INSIDE Drain tile or Baseboard system wsump, will it.................does it............
1) stop/prevent water from entering a crack in hollow-block wall?
2) stop/prevent mold from growing on inner-face of wall or inside hollow blocks?
3) stop/prevent radon gas from enterng crack or pores in hollow blocks?
4) relieve/lessen lateral hydrostatic soil pressure or roots from trees that is on the Outside of basement walls which cause many basement walls to crack,leak, bow inward...does your Inside systems take this pressure off the outside of wall?
5) help stop/prevent termites and other Insects from entering basements through cracks/other direct openings on the outside?
6) help stop/prevent efflorescence, paint peeling, discoloration of basement walls due to water/moisture entering THROUGH outside openings into house?
7) isn`t it Much MORE likely that any who has INSIDE System installed will INCREASE the chances/opportunities for HIGHER Radon levels in basement/home due to...Inside Systems drill HOLES in block walls and leave spaces/gaps along where the floor and bottom of wall meet?
8) Inside systems that place/install their sheeting/paneling up against inside of wall does....Nothing! If anything, it CREATES a wet- damp area behind the sheeting which is a PERFECT breeding ground for MOLD! Insects will LOVE this new-damp-wet space too, oh yes they will.
9) When you Inside guys sell and install carbon straps etc on the Inside of walls it.....does NOT relieve outside soil pressure `n roots which cause many walls to crack, leak, bow in the first place. where is the common sense? Why talk homeowners into things that will NOT take the outside pressure off the wall? Hello? And....there are still cracks on the outside, geez, don`t ya think they should be waterproofed? lololol.. why do YOU people want to leave them OPEN? we know why....
10) Why do MANY Inside Companies BS the Public on soo many things...including, saying that.... "Outside excavation will not work"..."Exterior work was done when house was built, it didnt work then and won`t work now"......"Exterior waterproofing is very disruptive and VERY costly". Excuse me but ALL of this is NOT true! Its a bunch of crap,its very misleading and they say these things because of THEIR Self-interest! Geeeezzzz
They do NOT want to excavate, they do not do exterior waterproofing....thats WHY they tell ya this garbage! In fact, many of these Inside comapnies do NOT carry the necessary INSURANCE to do Exterior Waterproofing! Nor do they have the necessary experienced LABOR, lolol, its NO Wonder they will TELL YOU Anything to SEDUCE homeowners into.....their INSIDE System, now....thats the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Basement dr. If you want to see how architects design concerning water,just go over to Pa. Thier God of all architects Frank L. Left has a little place called Falling Waters. You can even pay for a tour, if it's not closed for maintenance work.Respectfully,Frank O'Pinion
